Episode 161
#161 - Men in Therapy & Why We Love It with Abe Kim
Welcome back to Season 2! To kick off our return to the airwaves, Minji and our wonderful guest, Abe Kim, explore their perspectives about men, feelings, and therapy. They discuss longstanding societal pressures that have formed our ideas about male identity as well as the brutal impact of conditioning men not to feel. You'll hear about how Abe got started in therapy, finding the right therapist, the work that goes into "the work", the financial aspect, and more. There's no time to waste y'all, let's dismantle the stigmas and get healing!
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Produced by @marvinyueh & @AnnaSun
Supported by @JulianaDeer
00:00:00 - Welcome to Season 2 of FOA!
00:01:51 - Intro’ing the episode and hyping the guest
00:06:20 - Starting therapy and the great resistance
00:11:37 - Internalized beliefs about men and feelings
00:15:52 - How being Korean-American and religious shaped their views
00:22:54 - What MTV, Saved by the Bell, and Band of Brothers teaches about men 00:27:43 - Minji and Abe are sick of this shit
00:29:13 - Abe’s starts therapy and gets a diagnosis
00:33:36 - Human reaction to guard and avoid
00:39:48 - [Break] (plugs Marvel & Makeup Pod)
00:40:46 - Jumping back in
00:43:00 - Talking about therapy when you’re in it
00:48:29 - So, should I get into therapy?
00:55:19 - Matching with a therapist and dating
01:00:31 - How to make the money piece work
01:08:25 - Also celebrating the external work that Abe is doing
01:12:03 - closing out with 3x questions for our guest
01:18:50 - Outro + Tough Guy by Uzuhan + potluck podcast collective
(01:21:27 - Plugs Saturday School Pod)
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